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Let’s Talk About the Nonsense Involving deGrom, Syndergaard and the New York Yankees

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Let’s Talk About the Nonsense Involving deGrom, Syndergaard and the New York Yankees

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Few things make me throw my hands up in the air and curse the world. Notifications that Shohei Ohtani hit a single, ESPN Hot Takes and dumb trade speculations are those things. Welcome to the latter.

The New York Daily News put the two Mets aces on their back cover this week with the speculation that Amazins should strike a deal with the Yankees. I would say that’s a garbage idea, but I’ll try and show some restraint.

Actually, no.


Let’s start with this. The Mets would be trading their franchise to the Bronx if they were to make this deal. The future of this team are these two arms and anything involving them leaving Queens anytime soon is moronic. Why would you trade two of the best arms in the league to a crosstown rival? On a more basic level, WHY WOULD YOU TRADE TWO OF THE BEST ARMS IN THE LEAGUE TO ANYONE?

This rumor is 100% coming from Yankees fans who are riding high on the immense success of their team through the quarter mark of the season. That’s fine. We can all speculate, we can all dream. However, this HOT TAKE of all hot takes stems from one bigger issue: Yankees fans are afraid of a collapse, and they know it’ll be their pitching that does them in.

The Yankees lineup is full of studs who are proving themselves at the plate. Show me a hole in the Yankees lineup and I’ll give you a gold star because there simply isn’t one. On the mound, is where the Yankees have problems.

The Ace of their staff, by most metrics, should be Luis Severino, the young flamethrower who started their 2017 Wildcard game against the Minnesota Twins. Much like that game, Severino is a bit of a Wildcard himself. Two years ago he was in the bullpen, and now he’s at the helm of the rotation. That’s some serious upward mobility.

Below Severino is a grouping of former Aces, guys like Sonny Gray, Masahiro Tanaka, and C.C. Sabathia. All of these guys once struck fear in the hearts of hitters, but that’s not so much the case anymore. Frankly, the Yankees are not as well equipped on the hill as they are at the plate.

We all know that a solid starting rotation is mandatory for the playoffs and being able to count on said rotation is a must. Look at the last four teams to make it to the World Series. Solid pitching gets you to October and hopefully to Early November.

The Yankees don’t have that.

So let’s entertain the notion that Mets would trade deGrom and Syndergaard not just to the Yankees, but to anyone. Shall we?

Does anyone have the prospects to deal? One team. The San Diego Padres have 5 prospects in the Top 50, and that includes Fernando Tatis, Jr., their most prized possession. In order to part with deGrom and Syndergaard, the Mets would need to receive essentially all of them, if not most of them, at the very least.

We already have a recent example of a trade of this magnitude: Chris Sale switching Sox. The Red Sox gave up Yoan Moncada, Michael Kopech, Luis Alexander Basabe and Victor Diaz to get the lefty hurler. The Mets would be trading TWO Chris Sale level pitchers. The Red Sox sold their farm system for one, any other team would have to sell theirs and then some.

So what do the Yankees have to offer? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Sure they could cobble together a heaping bundle of prospects, but that would still set the Mets back years in the development of their squad, especially when they have the majority of their rotation under team control for the near future.

There isn’t a world in a galaxy in a universe in a simulation in a black hole where the Yankees could ever trade for the deGrom and Syndergaard with their current farm system and roster.

Stop the madness. Get a clue. Cool off the hot takes.

Actually, no.

I’m still mad about this. NINE people have brought this up to me since it’s abominable creation and it’s driving me mad. The Yankees gave away 3 prospects, two being in their top 10, and one being ranked above Aaron Judge in 2016. That was to get SONNY GRAY. What on Earth makes you think you could get deGrom or Syndergaard for the same amount?

Yankees fans turned a corner two years ago when it seemed that Cashman decided to make a sell-off his team in order to focus on the future. In fact, in 2016, in one of my first piece ever I wrote the following:

THEY’RE DEAD! TIME TO GIVE AWAY THEIR THINGS! There’s no other place to start than with the New York Yankees. NEW YORK, NEW YORK! A HELLUVA TOWN! THE BRONX IS UP, AND THE PAYROLL IS ARE DOWN. WHAT A DAY FOR THE PINSTRIPES. JESUS. Okay, by “DAY” I mean the whole week. Let’s take a look at what went down.


  • Aroldis Chapman -LHP – $11.3M/yr TO CHICAGO CUBS
  • Andrew Miller – LHP – $9M/yr. TO CLEVELAND INDIANS
  • Carlos Beltran – OF/DH – $15M/yr TO TEXAS RANGERS
  • Ivan Nova – RHP – $4.1M/yr TO PITTSBURGH PIRATES
  • A Few other smaller names. I would put them here if it made a difference, but the above-mentioned players are the ones who count.


  • OF Clint Frazier (No. 22 MLB prospect)
  • SS Gleyber Torres (No. 24 MLB prospect)
  • LHP Justus Sheffield (No. 93 MLB prospect)
  • RHP Dillon Tate
  • OF Billy McKinney
  • RHP Ben Heller
  • RHP J.P. Feyereisen
  • RHP Nick Green
  • RHP Erik Swanson
  • OF Rashad Crawford
  • RHP Tyler Clippard
  • TWO Players To Be Named Later – from PIT (Tito Polo and Stephen Tarpley)


David Cashman did something the Oakland A’s quietly do every year: HE GAVE UP. Cashman threw in the towel, but I think he also turned over a new leaf. The powerhouse Yankees of old no longer can win in this kind of league. Paying players exorbitant amounts of money for their top talents doesn’t get you very far in today’s game if you don’t have the young talent to back it up.

New York’s glory years at the turn of the Millenium came about due to it’s homegrown prospects. JETER, RIVERA, WILLIAMS, POSADA. If you can look me in the eye and tell me that your team couldn’t have used one of these guys, you’re a liar. They then supplemented those farmhands with bigger bats and arms. Kevin Brown, David Wells, Mike Mussina, Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield, Hideki Matsui, etc. That has no longer become the game. We now look to Pujols, Teixeira and Josh Hamilton as cautionary tales to big spending mindsets. CHASE HEADLEY PLAYS FOR NEW YORK. HE HAS BEEN PAID $36.5 MILLION DOLLARS TO HIT 27 HOME RUNS IN PINSTRIPES. Trevor Story has done that in less than a year in the majors. Yes, Story does play for Colorado, but who cares? Numbers are numbers.

All in all, I love this thinking by Cashman. Let’s revamp everything, give up and work on the future. Winning now doesn’t have to be the only option in the Bronx. INCREDIBLE WORK.

Back to the Present

It would seem that Yankees fans have forgotten where they came from and where they were going. Yes, Stanton was a big pickup in the offseason, but you were trading with Jeter, who gave him up for a song and Starlin Castro. Look back at the Stanton trade. It’s insanity that it was agreed upon.

Gleyber Torres, Clint Frazier, Chad Green, Luis Cessa, Didi Gregorius, Aaron Hicks, Albert Abreu, Estevan Florial, Justus Sheffield, Dillon Tate, Brian McKinney, Ben Heller to name a FEW. These are all guys in the Yankees system due to some incredible General Managing by Brian Cashman. To say he should consider going after deGrom or Syndergaard is not just dumb, it’s downright idiotic.

I’m not trying to dishearten Yankees fans, but I am trying to knock some sense into your dumb heads. You’re coming off a 21-3-1 stretch and while that surely feels amazing, it’s only good enough for a share of first in the AL East. It’s also good enough for a share of the best record in the MLB, which is shared by the team that knocked you out of the ALCS last year.

Things are going well for you, Yankees fans. I just think this is a bit of a reach, based on your belief in Daniel Murphy’s Law. Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

That’s your pitching. It’s going to go wrong. However, trading for superstars has burned you in the past. I’d rather be burned by guys who will stay in my organization and fight for the team that gave them their shot. You have those guys. Keep them. They worked for you before in Jeter, Posada, Williams, and Rivera.

Don’t sell the future to pay for the present. That goes for both sides.

Justin Colombo is a 2017 Broadway Show Softball League All-Star at 3B/SS. He's essentially the Manny Machado of the Kinky Boots team. Justin has been writing about Baseball since he was a little kid. Now that being an actor in NYC has given him a lot of free time, in 2015 he decided to take his passion public and founded Three Up, Three Down as a way to express his love for the game. From there, Three Up, Three Down grew from a hobby to an obsession. After years of growth and one insult from MLB's Historian, Justin launched The Turf, a way to expand into all areas of the sporting world. Follow him on Instagram and Twitter. LET'S. GO. METS.

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